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Last one to the mailbox?

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[chuckles]

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Whoo!

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[laughs]

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Morgan, move!

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Morgan!

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Morgan!

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DISPATCHER: All units
be on the lookout

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for a white church van

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with heavy frontal damage.
It's long gone.

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Whoa. Forget I said anything.

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[siren wailing]

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Come to Papa. Unit 1-5-2,

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we are northbound on River
Road just past Cannon.

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Show us following a vehicle

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possibly involved in felony
hit-and-run 45 minutes ago.

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White Ford van
with license plate

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nine, Eddie, three, seven, Larry, Peter.
Requesting backup.

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[indistinct radio chatter]

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Lower the window, then place
your hands back on the wheel.

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Have you fellas found the woman?
Is she okay?

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Sir, I smell alcohol.
Have you been drinking?

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ANDY: Oh, well...

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I... Sir, I'm gonna need you
to step out of the vehicle.

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Keep your hands in front of you.

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But what about the girl?

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Step out of the vehicle, now.

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[church bell ringing]

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[indistinct chatter]

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You can set your watch to it.

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9:52, each and every
Sunday morning.

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Benjamin Colón,
Attorney at Law emerges

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from 9:00 mass looking

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renewed and refreshed.[laughs]

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Monsignor Espinoza! Wow! Ah,
I see you're slumming it.

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Huh, what, they bump you

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back down to parish priest?
[laughs]

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Aren't you supposed to
be working the door

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at St. Patrick's Cathedral?
Hey, hey.

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Do not be a wise guy.
Remember who I work for?

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Ah, indeed, indeed.

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So good to see you, Father.

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What brings you back down here?

44
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You.

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Your church needs
your help, Benny.

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Mm. Promise you, Monsignor,

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I'm putting every dime I
can spare in that plate.

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I mean professionally.

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One of our parish priests out
on the end of Long Island,

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Father Andy Tincher,

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has been charged
in a hit-and-run.

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Victim was a young woman out
jogging with her sister.

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Yeah, I read about that.
Absolutely tragic.

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But, I mean, what can I do?

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I have to believe the diocese's
attorneys have it all covered,

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and frankly, from
everything I've read,

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the best move, maybe, is
to get your guys in there

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and have them work out

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a plea deal.

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It's-it's a bit more
complicated than that.

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They hit someone,

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drove right to this church,
and then went to confession?

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No, no, it was a church van.

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Whoever it was, was
driving a church van,

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so they drove straight
back to the church,

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Father Andy saw whoever it
was, saw that they were upset,

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got them to confess to him,

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then tried to get
them to call 911.

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And they wouldn't? Nope.

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Worse still, the driver
didn't even know

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if the victim was alive or dead.

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So Father Andy did the
only thing he could do.

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[elevator bell chimes]

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So why didn't the
priest call 911?

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Well, the Confessional
Seal demands that a priest

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never reveal anything disclosed
to him during confession.

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Father Andy thought
the victim might be

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suffering on the side
of some dark road,

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so he got back in
the van to find her

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and see if he could help.

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With a blood alcohol
count of .09.

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[elevator bell chimes]

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Fine, he-he's guilty
of drunk driving,

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no one is disputing that, but
the rest of it is exactly why.

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Monsignor Espinoza
needs our help.

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He knows how this is
gonna sound to a jury.

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Oh, Benny. No, Bull,

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you're not, you're
not hearing me.

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This isn't just about
a hit-and-run.

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This is about the Church...
The Roman Catholic Church,

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the largest Christian
church in the world...

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Going to court to protect
the sanctity of confession,

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one of the bedrock principles

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of the religion, and
they want you and me

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to make that case for them.

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I feel terribly for the
poor woman's family.

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I mean, trying to grieve
with all of this going on?

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I think it's just best we
focus on the defense, Father.

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BULL: As I'm sure
you know, Father,

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as officers of the court,
there are any number

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of privileges that we deal with.

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Attorney-client. Doctor-patient.

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But the Confessional Seal
is considerably broader

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than what we've
worked with before.

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So I just need to get a sense
of how big a blind spot it is

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we're dealing with here.

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Of course, of course. Fire away.

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So this someone, whose
name you can't share,

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hits the woman with
the church van,

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comes back here and confesses.

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Yeah.

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And after that, how
did they leave?

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Excuse me? I don't follow.

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BENNY: I-I think what.

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Dr. Bull is asking
is, what occurred

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after the sacrament of
confession was performed?

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Maybe there are some things
that you can tell us,

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without violating the
Seal, that can help us

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find the person who
actually did this.

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I mean, wouldn't
that be the best

121
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outcome for all of us?

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I don't think I'm gonna
be much help here.

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I mean...

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if this had occurred

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in the confessional booth,

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I couldn't divulge information
about the confessor

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as they left the church

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because they're on the
other side of the curtain.

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It's designed that
way on purpose.

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I'm not supposed to see who's
offering the confession.

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BULL: But this confession

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didn't take place in a
confessional booth.

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It was in the church driveway.

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I don't think where you confess
makes a difference to God.

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Have you had any contact
with the driver

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since he or she made
the confession?

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It feels like these questions
are really all just an effort

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to get to the identity
of the confessor,

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which you have to understand,

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I'm not at liberty to disclose.

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I mean, not without
violating the spirit

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of the Confessional Seal.

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Father Andy, I don't
know what to tell you.

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You were caught

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in the van with the
victim's blood on it.

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You were drunk.

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You're being charged with
vehicular manslaughter,

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leaving the scene
of an accident,

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and driving under the influence.

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The prosecution has
a very strong case.

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Now, I'm not asking you
to break your vows

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or the Confessional Seal,

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but I can't defend you if you
won't help defend yourself.

154
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Huh?

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You just... you got to give
me something to work with.

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I'll understand if
you can't help me.

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Will you really?

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You're willing to spend
15 or 20 years in prison

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for something you didn't do?

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Do you believe in God, Dr. Bull?

161
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Well, when I'm on a plane

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and there's a lot of turbulence,

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I sometimes wish I'd gone
to church a bit more,

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but day in and day out?

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Confession is a...
is a gift of grace

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and a way back to God
for those who are lost.

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It saves lives and souls.

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I understand.

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This is not a choice
for me, gentlemen.

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I mean, confession's not
an obstacle to overcome

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so you can catch
whoever did this.

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It's-it's an essential step
on the path to redemption

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for that tortured soul
who killed that woman.

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So, no.

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I can't give you
something to work with.

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I'm doing the only thing

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I know how.

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I'm putting my trust in God.

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Thing that makes
turbulence so frightening

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is you never see it coming.

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Mr. Colón and I would be pleased
to represent you, Father.

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♪

183
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Ah. Don't think I've ever tried
a case in Suffolk County.

184
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Well, that's the judge,
uh, there's the jury,

185
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and we sit here. Mm.

186
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All right. So what's the plan?

187
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Win.

188
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Well, we need to make sure
whoever ends up in that jury box

189
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understand the only reason
Father Andy was in that van

190
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was because he made a solemn
vow he could not break.

191
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Well, that doesn't
sound so tough.

192
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People understand vows.

193
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Marriage vows...

194
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Well, you would be surprised.

195
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For most people, the
idea of going to prison

196
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just to keep a promise,
that's gonna be a tough sell.

197
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And it's not like we can put
Father Andy on the stand.

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Why not? I can't imagine a
more trustworthy witness.

199
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Well, the problem is he's
not gonna be able to answer

200
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the questions the other
side is gonna ask,

201
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and the jury's gonna
hold that against him.

202
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They're gonna feel like he's
hiding something, which he is.

203
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Even if it's for
the right reasons?

204
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Trust me, it's human nature.

205
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If someone's got a secret,
we want to know what it is.

206
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What about these jurors?

207
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I'm assuming we're
looking for Catholics,

208
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or at the very least,
regular churchgoers?

209
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Not necessarily.
Believe it or not,

210
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church attendance is not
always such a great indicator

211
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of a person's spiritual life.

212
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I see that you attend
Hope Baptist Church?

213
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17 years. Every Sunday.

214
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MARISSA: That may
be what she's doing

215
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on Sundays, but the
rest of the week,

216
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she's having an "emotional
affair" via text

217
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with a man from Albuquerque
she's never met,

218
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and who her husband is
totally unaware of.

219
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What we want are
moral objectivists.

220
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Jurors with a strong
internal code

221
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that doesn't change
with societal whims

222
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and bureaucratic rules.

223
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They're duty bound, they
know the value of a secret,

224
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and more importantly, expect
everyone to keep their word.

225
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Good morning, sir.

226
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I see, from your
jury questionnaire

227
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that you have a
14-year-old daughter.

228
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I do.

229
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By any chance, does
she keep a diary?

230
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She calls it a journal.Ah.

231
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You ever think about
looking at it?

232
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Reading it?

233
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No. That's not...

234
00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:25,989
What if

235
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you were worried about her?

236
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Something going on behaviorally

237
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and she won't talk to you about?

238
00:11:31,865 --> 00:11:34,302
No. I couldn't.

239
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It's hers.

240
00:11:35,782 --> 00:11:37,348
BENNY: Your Honor,

241
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this juror is acceptable
to the defense.

242
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And this is my domain.

243
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Is this where someone would come

244
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if they wanted to
check out the van?

245
00:11:47,794 --> 00:11:49,883
[sighs] If we still had one,

246
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and you wanted to use it,
this is where you would come.

247
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And the drivers?

248
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Well, there's Father
Andy, of course,

249
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and me, and eight others
are authorized to take it.

250
00:12:02,156 --> 00:12:03,853
I'll get you the names.

251
00:12:03,897 --> 00:12:06,638
How do you keep track of who
has the van at any given time?

252
00:12:06,682 --> 00:12:11,774
Oh, well, every trip is
entered on the calendar.

253
00:12:11,818 --> 00:12:14,995
We don't want our choir stranded

254
00:12:15,038 --> 00:12:18,302
because someone decided to get
groceries for the kitchen.

255
00:12:18,346 --> 00:12:19,347
And the key?

256
00:12:19,390 --> 00:12:21,784
We keep it in here.

257
00:12:21,828 --> 00:12:24,874
Only authorized drivers are
given the combination.

258
00:12:24,918 --> 00:12:27,572
And we have this log,

259
00:12:27,616 --> 00:12:29,296
which is where they're
supposed to sign out

260
00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,619
whenever they take the key.

261
00:12:30,662 --> 00:12:33,448
Unfortunately, no one signed out

262
00:12:33,491 --> 00:12:34,710
the night of the accident.

263
00:12:36,103 --> 00:12:38,583
Oh, my gosh!

264
00:12:38,627 --> 00:12:39,976
There he is.

265
00:12:40,020 --> 00:12:41,978
Jacob. Harvard?

266
00:12:42,022 --> 00:12:44,154
Oh, that is amazing.

267
00:12:44,198 --> 00:12:45,958
I have been praying you
would hear good news.

268
00:12:45,982 --> 00:12:47,114
Thanks.

269
00:12:47,157 --> 00:12:49,159
ERIC: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

270
00:12:49,203 --> 00:12:50,803
In the meantime, we're
all starving here.

271
00:12:50,846 --> 00:12:52,246
Pizza should be
arriving any minute.

272
00:12:52,270 --> 00:12:54,282
I'll get you your petty cash.

273
00:12:58,038 --> 00:13:00,301
Oh. Give me a second.

274
00:13:13,488 --> 00:13:15,838
I understand you also had
an opportunity to examine

275
00:13:15,882 --> 00:13:18,928
the vehicle involved, the St.
Bernadine's church van?

276
00:13:18,972 --> 00:13:21,235
Yes, I did.

277
00:13:21,278 --> 00:13:22,678
And this wasn't your
first encounter

278
00:13:22,702 --> 00:13:24,978
with this particular
vehicle, was it?

279
00:13:25,021 --> 00:13:26,936
No.

280
00:13:26,980 --> 00:13:29,765
MADDEN: Can you
tell us about it?

281
00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:32,855
I stopped to assist Father
Andy two years ago.

282
00:13:32,899 --> 00:13:34,465
He was in the same van

283
00:13:34,509 --> 00:13:36,109
on the side of the
road with a flat tire.

284
00:13:36,133 --> 00:13:38,700
Was there anything unusual
about this interaction?

285
00:13:41,516 --> 00:13:44,388
He had clearly been drinking.

286
00:13:44,432 --> 00:13:45,912
[people gasping]

287
00:13:45,955 --> 00:13:47,130
BENNY: Your Honor?

288
00:13:47,174 --> 00:13:48,174
May we approach?

289
00:13:51,134 --> 00:13:52,570
Your Honor,

290
00:13:52,614 --> 00:13:54,877
this is impermissible
character evidence.

291
00:13:54,921 --> 00:13:57,532
We all know that the
prosecution isn't permitted

292
00:13:57,575 --> 00:13:59,969
to prove conduct through
a prior bad act.

293
00:14:00,013 --> 00:14:01,729
MADDEN: Defense counsel asserted
in his opening statement

294
00:14:01,753 --> 00:14:04,147
that the defendant never
would have driven drunk

295
00:14:04,191 --> 00:14:05,431
but for the alleged confession.

296
00:14:05,455 --> 00:14:06,758
He opened the door to this.

297
00:14:06,802 --> 00:14:08,602
We're permitted... In
fact, we're obligated...

298
00:14:08,626 --> 00:14:10,240
To refute that defense.

299
00:14:10,284 --> 00:14:13,026
I'm gonna allow it.

300
00:14:17,944 --> 00:14:21,730
And did you arrest the defendant
at that time? Cite him?

301
00:14:21,773 --> 00:14:24,646
No.

302
00:14:24,689 --> 00:14:26,735
He was a priest, and I
felt sorry for him,

303
00:14:26,778 --> 00:14:28,955
so I drove him back
to the church.

304
00:14:28,998 --> 00:14:30,913
No further questions,
Your Honor.

305
00:14:30,957 --> 00:14:32,959
So how bad is it?

306
00:14:33,002 --> 00:14:35,483
How bad would you like it?

307
00:14:35,526 --> 00:14:37,093
We've lost them all.

308
00:14:37,137 --> 00:14:38,486
Not a single green in the bunch.

309
00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,409
ANDY: I never put it together.

310
00:14:48,452 --> 00:14:51,629
Not even when the
officer took the stand.

311
00:14:51,673 --> 00:14:54,937
I-It's not like he, he asked
me if I'd been drinking, or...

312
00:14:54,981 --> 00:14:56,330
It's not like he gave me

313
00:14:56,373 --> 00:14:57,984
a breathalyzer test.

314
00:14:58,027 --> 00:15:01,074
I-I was trying to change a
tire and he came over to help.

315
00:15:01,117 --> 00:15:03,990
And, like, a minute in, he said,

316
00:15:04,033 --> 00:15:07,819
"How about I just give you a
ride back to the church?"

317
00:15:07,863 --> 00:15:09,865
I'm guessing he could
smell it on you.

318
00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:12,737
It's not like that. I-I'd
come from a wedding.

319
00:15:12,781 --> 00:15:15,697
No. Sorry. It is like that.

320
00:15:15,740 --> 00:15:18,918
You're on trial for murder,
for killing a young woman

321
00:15:18,961 --> 00:15:20,281
while driving under
the influence.

322
00:15:20,305 --> 00:15:21,964
I wasn't drunk.

323
00:15:22,008 --> 00:15:24,401
I think I'd had two glasses of wine.
Maybe three...

324
00:15:24,445 --> 00:15:26,534
BENNY: Father Andy, we
really need to know,

325
00:15:26,577 --> 00:15:29,580
are there gonna be
any other surprises?

326
00:15:29,624 --> 00:15:31,713
No. I'm certain of it. No.

327
00:15:31,756 --> 00:15:34,063
Unfortunately, Officer Avery's
testimony made it sound

328
00:15:34,107 --> 00:15:36,196
like this was a
pattern of behavior.

329
00:15:38,198 --> 00:15:39,939
I'm gonna need you
to take the stand.

330
00:15:39,982 --> 00:15:43,029
Uh... what would be the point?

331
00:15:43,072 --> 00:15:45,335
I mean, what would
you want me to say?

332
00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,339
The truth.

333
00:15:49,383 --> 00:15:51,423
I need you to talk about the
night of the flat tire.

334
00:15:51,447 --> 00:15:53,474
There's no confession involved.

335
00:15:53,517 --> 00:15:55,519
You don't need to talk about
anybody but yourself.

336
00:15:55,563 --> 00:15:59,436
It'll give the jurors a chance
to see who you really are.

337
00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,699
That you're forthcoming.

338
00:16:01,743 --> 00:16:03,663
That you're not afraid to
take the witness stand,

339
00:16:03,687 --> 00:16:05,529
and most importantly,

340
00:16:05,573 --> 00:16:09,098
that you're not someone who
normally drinks and drives.

341
00:16:12,667 --> 00:16:16,018
And what happens if they start
asking about the hit-and-run?

342
00:16:16,062 --> 00:16:18,760
We'll invoke the
cleric-penitent privilege.

343
00:16:18,803 --> 00:16:20,980
What choice do we have?

344
00:16:21,023 --> 00:16:22,633
CHUNK: So,

345
00:16:22,677 --> 00:16:24,026
at this particular reception,

346
00:16:24,070 --> 00:16:27,029
how many drinks would
you say you had?

347
00:16:27,073 --> 00:16:28,900
Two.

348
00:16:28,944 --> 00:16:30,946
Maybe three... glasses of wine.

349
00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:32,992
Two? Maybe three?

350
00:16:33,035 --> 00:16:34,776
You don't remember?

351
00:16:34,819 --> 00:16:37,431
I mean, w-was it two or three?

352
00:16:37,474 --> 00:16:39,868
Well, truthfully,
I can't be sure.

353
00:16:39,911 --> 00:16:41,609
It was over two years ago.

354
00:16:41,652 --> 00:16:45,308
Well, you testified that you-you
really don't drink that often.

355
00:16:45,352 --> 00:16:48,703
So I would think that you would
remember if it was two or three.

356
00:16:48,746 --> 00:16:52,141
Maybe I'll just answer
"three" next time.

357
00:16:52,185 --> 00:16:55,231
Ask me something else.

358
00:16:55,275 --> 00:16:59,192
So it's your testimony, Father,

359
00:16:59,235 --> 00:17:02,456
that the only two times

360
00:17:02,499 --> 00:17:04,893
that you've been stopped
by law enforcement

361
00:17:04,936 --> 00:17:08,288
happened to also be the only
two times that you've drank

362
00:17:08,331 --> 00:17:11,508
and then got behind
the wheel of a car?

363
00:17:11,552 --> 00:17:13,902
I-I... Now, I know
how that sounds.

364
00:17:13,945 --> 00:17:18,167
I've-I've heard all the stories
and all the jokes about

365
00:17:18,211 --> 00:17:20,517
drunken priests.

366
00:17:23,259 --> 00:17:26,958
Go to a wedding,
everybody's dressed up,

367
00:17:27,002 --> 00:17:29,439
everybody's there to
have a good time.

368
00:17:29,483 --> 00:17:34,053
And there I am, with my collar
and my vows and my Bible,

369
00:17:34,096 --> 00:17:37,491
and I'm-I'm a-a silent reminder

370
00:17:37,534 --> 00:17:41,147
to everyone, uh, not
to have too much fun.

371
00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:44,411
Not to have too good a time.

372
00:17:44,454 --> 00:17:48,458
And what I've discovered
over the years is that

373
00:17:48,502 --> 00:17:51,244
if I'm holding a glass
of something...

374
00:17:51,287 --> 00:17:54,116
I-if I'm holding a
glass of anything...

375
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,075
People relax a little bit.

376
00:17:56,118 --> 00:17:59,426
They-they forget a little bit.

377
00:17:59,469 --> 00:18:02,646
Okay. That's better.

378
00:18:02,690 --> 00:18:06,476
That's warmer, it's
a touch more human.

379
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,089
But frankly, the jury doesn't
want to hear excuses,

380
00:18:10,132 --> 00:18:13,179
or that you drink to make
them feel more comfortable.

381
00:18:13,222 --> 00:18:15,746
A woman is dead.

382
00:18:15,790 --> 00:18:18,097
And you know what happened
and you won't tell anyone

383
00:18:18,140 --> 00:18:20,403
and you're asking for a pass.

384
00:18:20,447 --> 00:18:25,016
And so what I want in return...
What, what they want in return...

385
00:18:25,060 --> 00:18:26,627
Is to feel that they know you.

386
00:18:26,670 --> 00:18:28,411
To feel that they can trust you.

387
00:18:28,455 --> 00:18:31,284
Okay. How do I do that?

388
00:18:31,327 --> 00:18:33,895
Take ownership of your mistakes.

389
00:18:33,938 --> 00:18:36,767
"I drank too much. Period.

390
00:18:36,811 --> 00:18:40,336
"I should not have driven myself home.
Period.

391
00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:42,512
"I vowed to never do it again.

392
00:18:42,556 --> 00:18:44,384
"Period. The night
of the hit-and-run

393
00:18:44,427 --> 00:18:46,995
"is a completely different thing.
Period.

394
00:18:47,038 --> 00:18:49,606
"There was a woman on the side
of the road who needed help

395
00:18:49,650 --> 00:18:54,176
and I was determined to help her.
Period."

396
00:18:54,220 --> 00:18:56,178
[exhales]

397
00:18:56,222 --> 00:18:59,094
Is this the way
you always do it,

398
00:18:59,138 --> 00:19:01,270
prepare people for court?

399
00:19:01,314 --> 00:19:03,881
I mean, you raise your voice?

400
00:19:03,925 --> 00:19:07,015
You taunt them?

401
00:19:07,058 --> 00:19:09,017
Or is this just for me?

402
00:19:09,060 --> 00:19:11,628
No.

403
00:19:11,672 --> 00:19:13,630
I have a complicated
relationship

404
00:19:13,674 --> 00:19:15,632
with organized religion,

405
00:19:15,676 --> 00:19:18,635
and I think I projected
that onto you.

406
00:19:18,679 --> 00:19:20,115
Hmm.

407
00:19:20,159 --> 00:19:22,291
Well, you're in good company.

408
00:19:22,335 --> 00:19:26,469
A lot of people have problems
with organized religion.

409
00:19:26,513 --> 00:19:29,255
No, I don't have a problem
with organized religion.

410
00:19:29,298 --> 00:19:32,562
It has a problem with me.

411
00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:34,434
Catholic?

412
00:19:34,477 --> 00:19:36,044
Baptist.

413
00:19:36,087 --> 00:19:39,656
Hmm.

414
00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:42,964
I went every Sunday.

415
00:19:43,007 --> 00:19:46,663
I started singing in the
choir in eighth grade.

416
00:19:52,408 --> 00:19:56,064
Those were tough years for me.

417
00:19:56,107 --> 00:19:59,328
I carried around a lot of shame.

418
00:20:05,291 --> 00:20:08,250
I wasn't sure who I was,

419
00:20:08,294 --> 00:20:11,297
and when I started getting
surer, I wasn't sure I liked it.

420
00:20:14,082 --> 00:20:16,650
I can't count the number of
nights that I'd go to sleep

421
00:20:16,693 --> 00:20:20,131
praying to God that
he would fix me.

422
00:20:22,308 --> 00:20:25,485
It was pretty clear that...

423
00:20:25,528 --> 00:20:28,357
I was no longer welcome.

424
00:20:31,491 --> 00:20:35,495
And I got to admit... [scoffs]

425
00:20:35,538 --> 00:20:38,062
I miss it.

426
00:20:42,893 --> 00:20:45,200
But now I guess you could say

427
00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:49,117
that my relationship
with God is my own.

428
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,512
Hmm.

429
00:20:52,555 --> 00:20:55,689
Well, good for you.

430
00:20:55,732 --> 00:20:57,560
I'm glad you didn't
give up on God

431
00:20:57,604 --> 00:21:01,390
because your church
gave up on you.

432
00:21:04,219 --> 00:21:08,441
Now, ask me another question.

433
00:21:08,484 --> 00:21:09,920
DANNY: I'm telling you,

434
00:21:09,964 --> 00:21:12,358
anyone could have taken that
van key, authorized or not.

435
00:21:12,401 --> 00:21:13,794
TAYLOR: Well here's
a crazy idea.

436
00:21:13,837 --> 00:21:16,187
What if we forget about the who.

437
00:21:16,231 --> 00:21:18,233
Maybe just concentrate
on the where.

438
00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:19,930
I'm not following.

439
00:21:19,974 --> 00:21:22,629
Well, I was thinking, if
I could just figure out

440
00:21:22,672 --> 00:21:25,022
where the van had been and
where the van was heading,

441
00:21:25,066 --> 00:21:26,807
it might help us
identify the driver.

442
00:21:26,850 --> 00:21:29,200
You can do that? Already did.

443
00:21:29,244 --> 00:21:30,884
The van has an on board
navigation system,

444
00:21:30,928 --> 00:21:32,328
which I was able to
access remotely.

445
00:21:32,352 --> 00:21:35,642
The cool thing is, any
time the vehicle is on,

446
00:21:35,685 --> 00:21:37,861
the system notes and
records its location

447
00:21:37,905 --> 00:21:41,038
whether you're asking it
for directions or not.

448
00:21:41,082 --> 00:21:43,214
We know the location
of the hit-and-run.

449
00:21:43,258 --> 00:21:45,218
So what I've been doing is
looking for other trips

450
00:21:45,242 --> 00:21:47,697
that used that road,
passed by that location.

451
00:21:47,741 --> 00:21:49,438
And...?

452
00:21:49,482 --> 00:21:52,093
And I found two others.

453
00:21:52,136 --> 00:21:54,356
Both stopped at
the same address.

454
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,185
Do they correlate with any other
entries in the log pages?

455
00:21:57,228 --> 00:21:59,448
TAYLOR: They do not.

456
00:21:59,492 --> 00:22:01,339
If you give me that address, I'll go over
and check it out, see what I can find out.

457
00:22:01,363 --> 00:22:02,669
Just e-mailed it to you.

458
00:22:02,712 --> 00:22:04,323
[phone chimes]

459
00:22:04,366 --> 00:22:08,109
So Officer Avery didn't actually
administer a breathalyzer test?

460
00:22:08,152 --> 00:22:09,371
No. He didn't.

461
00:22:09,415 --> 00:22:12,200
Or conduct any kind of
field sobriety testing?

462
00:22:12,243 --> 00:22:15,943
No. Uh, but I-I still
think Officer Avery

463
00:22:15,986 --> 00:22:18,728
did the right thing,
driving me home.

464
00:22:18,772 --> 00:22:21,731
I'd had a few glasses of wine.

465
00:22:21,775 --> 00:22:26,736
And, uh, I-I really
shouldn't have driven.

466
00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:30,349
It was a mistake, and one
that I don't take lightly.

467
00:22:30,392 --> 00:22:33,961
I don't make a habit of
drinking and driving.

468
00:22:34,004 --> 00:22:38,226
Although, I-I do understand
how it must look.

469
00:22:38,269 --> 00:22:40,620
And yet, you did drink and drive

470
00:22:40,663 --> 00:22:42,752
on the night of Ms.
Newhouse's death.

471
00:22:42,796 --> 00:22:45,059
Yes, I did.

472
00:22:45,102 --> 00:22:47,409
And I plead guilty to that.

473
00:22:47,453 --> 00:22:51,413
Father, can you please
explain to the court

474
00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:54,329
how you ended up behind the
wheel of the van that night?

475
00:22:57,332 --> 00:22:59,160
I was in my office.

476
00:22:59,203 --> 00:23:00,814
Uh, typically,

477
00:23:00,857 --> 00:23:03,599
Thursdays are the
only night that, uh,

478
00:23:03,643 --> 00:23:06,950
I have any time to myself.

479
00:23:06,994 --> 00:23:08,691
I have a Scotch.

480
00:23:08,735 --> 00:23:10,911
I started to read.

481
00:23:10,954 --> 00:23:13,653
A window was open

482
00:23:13,696 --> 00:23:17,308
and I heard the parish van
drive up behind the rectory.

483
00:23:17,352 --> 00:23:20,747
I didn't remember there
being anything scheduled.

484
00:23:20,790 --> 00:23:23,793
To be honest, I didn't even
know that someone had taken it.

485
00:23:23,837 --> 00:23:26,230
So I walked down
to see who it was.

486
00:23:27,623 --> 00:23:29,756
And what did you find?

487
00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:32,802
The driver... this person...

488
00:23:32,846 --> 00:23:34,456
Was very upset.

489
00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:37,024
Panicked.

490
00:23:37,067 --> 00:23:39,287
And they confessed to me

491
00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:42,159
that they had struck a
woman with the van.

492
00:23:42,203 --> 00:23:44,901
And what did you do?

493
00:23:44,945 --> 00:23:48,470
I gave absolution.

494
00:23:48,514 --> 00:23:53,083
And then I pleaded with
the driver to call 911.

495
00:23:53,127 --> 00:23:54,781
And did they?

496
00:23:54,824 --> 00:23:58,915
The person... the-the driver...

497
00:23:58,959 --> 00:24:00,830
They were pretty distraught.

498
00:24:00,874 --> 00:24:02,615
They were quite hysterical.

499
00:24:02,658 --> 00:24:05,661
And I realized that this person

500
00:24:05,705 --> 00:24:07,924
was not capable of
making that call.

501
00:24:07,968 --> 00:24:09,665
So did you make it?

502
00:24:09,709 --> 00:24:12,320
Did you call 911

503
00:24:12,363 --> 00:24:13,582
when the driver refused to?

504
00:24:13,626 --> 00:24:15,279
No.

505
00:24:15,323 --> 00:24:18,805
No. The Confessional
Seal can't be broken.

506
00:24:18,848 --> 00:24:20,502
So I couldn't.

507
00:24:20,546 --> 00:24:22,504
And all I kept thinking about

508
00:24:22,548 --> 00:24:25,072
was this woman that I
had just heard about.

509
00:24:25,115 --> 00:24:28,510
And I-I had a... only
a vague description

510
00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:30,512
of where all of this happened.

511
00:24:30,556 --> 00:24:32,862
[sighs]

512
00:24:32,906 --> 00:24:34,429
And the only thing I
could think to do

513
00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:37,693
was to get in the van and
go look for her myself.

514
00:24:37,737 --> 00:24:41,131
Father Andy...

515
00:24:41,175 --> 00:24:42,959
were you driving the van

516
00:24:43,003 --> 00:24:44,961
when it struck and
killed Morgan Newhouse?

517
00:24:47,268 --> 00:24:50,401
When you called me up here,

518
00:24:50,445 --> 00:24:54,318
you had me place my
hand on the Holy Bible.

519
00:24:54,362 --> 00:24:57,583
And I swore that I
would tell the truth.

520
00:24:57,626 --> 00:24:59,149
So here it is.

521
00:25:01,761 --> 00:25:05,808
I was not in that van when
it struck poor Ms. Newhouse.

522
00:25:05,852 --> 00:25:09,595
And I certainly was not driving
that van when it struck her.

523
00:25:09,638 --> 00:25:14,077
I did get in it and
go look for her.

524
00:25:14,121 --> 00:25:17,124
And I had a drink
shortly before.

525
00:25:17,167 --> 00:25:19,300
[Andy sighs]

526
00:25:21,432 --> 00:25:24,523
I know how much it must ache

527
00:25:24,566 --> 00:25:27,003
not to know what happened.

528
00:25:27,047 --> 00:25:28,309
I know how it pains me

529
00:25:28,352 --> 00:25:30,920
not to be able to tell you.

530
00:25:30,964 --> 00:25:33,532
But God has a plan.

531
00:25:33,575 --> 00:25:36,752
I believe that
with all my heart.

532
00:25:36,796 --> 00:25:39,189
Thank you, Father.

533
00:25:39,233 --> 00:25:41,365
No further questions,
Your Honor.

534
00:25:43,367 --> 00:25:45,631
[quietly]: Drumroll, please...

535
00:25:45,674 --> 00:25:47,589
They like him.

536
00:25:47,633 --> 00:25:49,504
They sense he's
telling the truth.

537
00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:51,724
We've won back three jurors.

538
00:25:51,767 --> 00:25:52,855
Hmm.

539
00:25:55,379 --> 00:25:57,338
Father Andy...

540
00:25:57,381 --> 00:25:59,209
let me make sure I
understood you.

541
00:25:59,253 --> 00:26:01,255
On the night in question,

542
00:26:01,298 --> 00:26:03,083
you went down to the van.

543
00:26:03,126 --> 00:26:05,433
This alleged driver did not seek you out.
Is that correct?

544
00:26:05,476 --> 00:26:06,956
Yes, that's correct.

545
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,349
MADDEN: Okay, then.

546
00:26:08,392 --> 00:26:10,481
Now that we've cleared that up,

547
00:26:10,525 --> 00:26:12,266
I have just one
question for you.

548
00:26:12,309 --> 00:26:15,443
If you weren't driving the van
that killed Morgan Newhouse...

549
00:26:15,486 --> 00:26:16,836
who was? Objection!

550
00:26:16,879 --> 00:26:19,621
Your Honor, as we've
previously established,

551
00:26:19,665 --> 00:26:21,275
this information is protected

552
00:26:21,318 --> 00:26:23,712
by the cleric-penitent
privilege.

553
00:26:23,756 --> 00:26:25,540
I disagree, Your Honor.

554
00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:29,065
Would the attorneys please
approach the bench?

555
00:26:33,113 --> 00:26:34,913
Your Honor, based on
Father Andrew's testimony

556
00:26:34,937 --> 00:26:38,248
just moments ago, the privilege
doesn't apply in this case.

557
00:26:38,292 --> 00:26:39,641
To meet the legal threshold,

558
00:26:39,685 --> 00:26:41,687
the penitent must be
intentionally seeking

559
00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:43,558
spiritual guidance
and absolution.

560
00:26:43,602 --> 00:26:44,994
Your client just admitted

561
00:26:45,038 --> 00:26:46,638
that it was he who
sought out the driver,

562
00:26:46,681 --> 00:26:47,639
not the other way around.

563
00:26:47,682 --> 00:26:49,216
Well, that's ridiculous.

564
00:26:49,259 --> 00:26:51,784
It's obvious what the intent
of the law is, Your Honor.

565
00:26:53,699 --> 00:26:56,310
Mr. Colón, I understand
your argument,

566
00:26:56,353 --> 00:26:58,225
but since the language
of the statute

567
00:26:58,268 --> 00:27:00,575
doesn't support your position,

568
00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:03,491
I'm going to have to side with Mr.
Madden.

569
00:27:03,534 --> 00:27:05,754
I'm sorry, but no
privilege will be granted

570
00:27:05,798 --> 00:27:07,451
with regard to your
client's testimony.

571
00:27:10,716 --> 00:27:13,588
[quietly]: I sense some
turbulence coming.

572
00:27:15,851 --> 00:27:20,900
The witness is instructed
to answer the question.

573
00:27:20,943 --> 00:27:23,729
I'm sorry, Your Honor.

574
00:27:23,772 --> 00:27:25,165
I cannot answer.

575
00:27:25,208 --> 00:27:26,862
Father Andy,

576
00:27:26,906 --> 00:27:28,385
the court ruled

577
00:27:28,429 --> 00:27:30,866
that the clergy-penitent
privilege doesn't apply.

578
00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:33,042
For the second time,

579
00:27:33,086 --> 00:27:35,654
you are instructed to
answer the question.

580
00:27:35,697 --> 00:27:40,006
Again... I apologize
to the court...

581
00:27:40,049 --> 00:27:42,399
But the Confessional
Seal forbids it.

582
00:27:42,443 --> 00:27:44,924
My vow to the Church forbids it.

583
00:27:44,967 --> 00:27:47,013
My oath to God forbids it.

584
00:27:47,056 --> 00:27:48,579
This is your last chance.

585
00:27:48,623 --> 00:27:50,886
If you don't answer
the question,

586
00:27:50,930 --> 00:27:53,106
I will be forced to hold
you in contempt of court.

587
00:27:55,021 --> 00:27:57,588
I'm sorry.

588
00:27:57,632 --> 00:28:00,591
I answer to God and the Vatican.

589
00:28:00,635 --> 00:28:03,812
Unfortunately for you, this
is not a court of God.

590
00:28:03,856 --> 00:28:05,118
This is a court of law.

591
00:28:05,161 --> 00:28:06,902
I'm holding you in
contempt of court.

592
00:28:06,946 --> 00:28:08,948
[gavel bangs]

593
00:28:08,991 --> 00:28:11,272
And because you won't allow
yourself to be cross-examined,

594
00:28:11,296 --> 00:28:12,691
your previous testimony

595
00:28:12,734 --> 00:28:14,170
is stricken from the record.

596
00:28:14,214 --> 00:28:16,085
Ladies and gentlemen
of the jury,

597
00:28:16,129 --> 00:28:18,410
I instruct you to disregard the
testimony of the defendant

598
00:28:18,434 --> 00:28:19,262
in its entirety.

599
00:28:19,306 --> 00:28:22,048
You will not consider
anything he said

600
00:28:22,091 --> 00:28:23,963
in your deliberations.

601
00:28:24,006 --> 00:28:25,181
Take this man into custody.

602
00:28:40,457 --> 00:28:41,807
I sought out this firm's help

603
00:28:41,850 --> 00:28:44,461
for one reason and
one reason only.

604
00:28:44,505 --> 00:28:46,942
The Church is committed
to protecting

605
00:28:46,986 --> 00:28:50,163
the sanctity of confession.

606
00:28:50,206 --> 00:28:54,994
We cannot and we will not
allow a secular court

607
00:28:55,037 --> 00:29:00,216
to render 20 centuries of
Catholic sacrament irrelevant.

608
00:29:00,260 --> 00:29:03,002
[sighs] Monsignor...

609
00:29:03,045 --> 00:29:05,744
But as this trial has commenced,

610
00:29:05,787 --> 00:29:08,007
it has degenerated

611
00:29:08,050 --> 00:29:10,836
from a reasoned conversation

612
00:29:10,879 --> 00:29:14,056
about a treasured
Catholic sacrament

613
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:16,189
into something else entirely.

614
00:29:16,232 --> 00:29:18,800
Into a spectacle.

615
00:29:18,844 --> 00:29:21,455
The news is filled

616
00:29:21,498 --> 00:29:23,805
with revelations
of drunk driving.

617
00:29:23,849 --> 00:29:25,415
A Catholic priest

618
00:29:25,459 --> 00:29:29,115
paraded before the
press in handcuffs.

619
00:29:29,158 --> 00:29:33,075
A growing public belief

620
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:36,949
that the Church is
harboring a priest

621
00:29:36,992 --> 00:29:40,822
who is wielding
confession as a shield

622
00:29:40,866 --> 00:29:45,871
behind which to hide his
own criminal behavior.

623
00:29:45,914 --> 00:29:47,873
Well, w-we know how
it looks, but...

624
00:29:47,916 --> 00:29:49,875
the trial isn't over yet.

625
00:29:49,918 --> 00:29:51,659
It is.

626
00:29:51,702 --> 00:29:53,226
For us.

627
00:29:56,229 --> 00:29:57,796
I am sorry, gentlemen.

628
00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:00,363
I know how hard you've worked.

629
00:30:00,407 --> 00:30:02,757
You're firing us. No.

630
00:30:02,801 --> 00:30:05,847
I am directing you
to negotiate a plea.

631
00:30:05,891 --> 00:30:07,283
The quicker the better.

632
00:30:07,327 --> 00:30:09,111
The sooner this case

633
00:30:09,155 --> 00:30:11,418
is no longer a part of
the public conversation,

634
00:30:11,461 --> 00:30:13,115
the better it will
be for everyone.

635
00:30:13,159 --> 00:30:15,117
Except possibly Father Andy.

636
00:30:15,161 --> 00:30:16,640
The man's innocent.

637
00:30:16,684 --> 00:30:17,554
Really?

638
00:30:17,598 --> 00:30:18,860
You still believe that,

639
00:30:18,904 --> 00:30:20,862
after everything we heard
in that courtroom?

640
00:30:20,906 --> 00:30:23,146
And you wonder why you don't
see me in church on Sundays.

641
00:30:23,170 --> 00:30:24,474
It's guys like this.

642
00:30:24,518 --> 00:30:26,041
They're with you
through thin and thin.

643
00:30:26,085 --> 00:30:28,739
Don't you dare judge me.

644
00:30:32,091 --> 00:30:33,353
I have

645
00:30:33,396 --> 00:30:37,444
296 parishes

646
00:30:37,487 --> 00:30:39,925
to worry about.

647
00:30:39,968 --> 00:30:42,536
Hey, Benny. Help
your friend out.

648
00:30:42,579 --> 00:30:44,579
I think he's looking for
the high side of the boat.

649
00:30:44,603 --> 00:30:46,366
It's out that door,
down the elevator

650
00:30:46,409 --> 00:30:48,020
and right out onto the street.

651
00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:49,760
And just to be clear...

652
00:30:49,804 --> 00:30:51,632
whether you pay our bill or not,

653
00:30:51,675 --> 00:30:54,026
Benny and I are going to be
representing Father Andy

654
00:30:54,069 --> 00:30:56,115
in court, defending
his innocence.

655
00:30:56,158 --> 00:30:59,858
Because... and this might
be a novel concept,

656
00:30:59,901 --> 00:31:02,991
but when we make a promise,

657
00:31:03,035 --> 00:31:05,951
when we make a pledge...

658
00:31:05,994 --> 00:31:07,387
we keep it.

659
00:31:19,529 --> 00:31:20,617
Oh, relax.

660
00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:22,010
You're going to be fine.

661
00:31:22,054 --> 00:31:23,403
It's me.

662
00:31:23,446 --> 00:31:24,446
I'm going to hell.

663
00:31:26,406 --> 00:31:28,016
But then again, I always was.

664
00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:29,060
[doorbell rings]

665
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:33,630
Yes? DANNY: Hi. Sorry
to bother you.

666
00:31:33,674 --> 00:31:35,284
My name's Danny James.

667
00:31:35,328 --> 00:31:38,070
I'm an investigator working
on behalf of Father Andy

668
00:31:38,113 --> 00:31:40,115
from St. Bernadine Church.

669
00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:42,440
I'm trying to track down some
information on a hit-and-run

670
00:31:42,483 --> 00:31:44,355
that occurred a few weeks
back on River Road.

671
00:31:44,398 --> 00:31:46,339
Oh, of course. I read
about that, yeah.

672
00:31:46,382 --> 00:31:48,254
Have you seen this vehicle?

673
00:31:48,297 --> 00:31:49,951
We have reason to
believe it was actually

674
00:31:49,995 --> 00:31:51,300
parked in front of your house

675
00:31:51,344 --> 00:31:52,823
a little over a month ago.

676
00:31:52,867 --> 00:31:53,824
Yeah.

677
00:31:53,868 --> 00:31:55,348
Uh, Jacob drove it here.

678
00:31:55,391 --> 00:31:56,784
I think that's his church's.

679
00:31:56,827 --> 00:31:58,107
They let him drive it sometimes.

680
00:31:58,131 --> 00:31:59,482
Jacob?

681
00:31:59,526 --> 00:32:00,396
Jacob Larson.

682
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,529
Oh, um...

683
00:32:02,572 --> 00:32:06,881
We met at church
camp last summer.

684
00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:09,623
He doesn't go to my
school or anything,

685
00:32:09,666 --> 00:32:11,451
but we started hanging
out after that.

686
00:32:11,494 --> 00:32:13,279
Do you still see him?

687
00:32:13,322 --> 00:32:14,889
No.

688
00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:16,586
Not for a few weeks, actually.

689
00:32:18,153 --> 00:32:20,068
It wasn't serious or anything.

690
00:32:20,112 --> 00:32:23,942
Or... maybe I thought it was
more serious than he did.

691
00:32:23,985 --> 00:32:26,379
So, wait. You don't
see him anymore?

692
00:32:26,422 --> 00:32:28,990
He got into Harvard.

693
00:32:29,034 --> 00:32:30,992
And I guess it
kinda changed him.

694
00:32:31,036 --> 00:32:32,994
How so?

695
00:32:33,038 --> 00:32:35,866
Well, the day he got the
letter, he called me.

696
00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:39,566
He was super excited, because he got in.
He got in!

697
00:32:39,609 --> 00:32:44,310
And, um, he wanted to come
over that night and celebrate.

698
00:32:44,353 --> 00:32:47,617
And then he just didn't show up.

699
00:32:47,661 --> 00:32:49,061
And you haven't
talked to him since?

700
00:32:49,085 --> 00:32:51,012
I... called him.

701
00:32:51,056 --> 00:32:52,144
I texted him.

702
00:32:52,187 --> 00:32:55,190
I even DM'd him on Instagram.

703
00:32:55,234 --> 00:32:57,149
And... nothing.

704
00:32:59,673 --> 00:33:00,804
Whatever.

705
00:33:00,848 --> 00:33:01,892
I'm over it.

706
00:33:01,936 --> 00:33:03,111
DANNY: And as it happens,

707
00:33:03,155 --> 00:33:04,895
the quickest route from St.
Bernadine's

708
00:33:04,939 --> 00:33:07,333
to Jessica's house
is River Road.

709
00:33:07,376 --> 00:33:10,336
So Jacob would have driven right
by the scene of the accident.

710
00:33:12,338 --> 00:33:15,689
Taylor, when did those Harvard
early admission notices go out?

711
00:33:15,732 --> 00:33:19,432
E-mail notifications went
out Thursday the 29th.

712
00:33:19,475 --> 00:33:20,389
Same day as the hit-and-run.

713
00:33:20,433 --> 00:33:21,695
BULL: So...

714
00:33:21,738 --> 00:33:24,828
Jacob gets into Harvard.
He's thrilled.

715
00:33:24,872 --> 00:33:27,222
He's on his way over
to see his girl,

716
00:33:27,266 --> 00:33:28,963
he hits Morgan. He panics.

717
00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:30,527
Turns around, heads
back to the church,

718
00:33:30,551 --> 00:33:33,185
and afterwards, he is
scared and guilt-ridden,

719
00:33:33,228 --> 00:33:35,709
and cuts off all
contact with Jessica.

720
00:33:35,752 --> 00:33:37,624
So... we cracked
the case, right?

721
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:42,237
Still waiting for our
"attagirls." [chuckles]

722
00:33:42,281 --> 00:33:44,326
Well, I wouldn't say
you cracked it.

723
00:33:44,370 --> 00:33:46,067
More like dinged it a little.

724
00:33:46,111 --> 00:33:49,070
It's great, but not enough
to save Father Andy.

725
00:33:49,114 --> 00:33:51,681
But we know who did it.
BENNY: No.

726
00:33:51,725 --> 00:33:53,205
No, actually, we don't.

727
00:33:53,248 --> 00:33:55,250
It's just a theory.

728
00:33:55,294 --> 00:33:57,513
We can't actually prove anything

729
00:33:57,557 --> 00:34:01,822
other than this Jacob
got into Harvard.

730
00:34:01,865 --> 00:34:04,694
What else do we know
about this Jacob?

731
00:34:04,738 --> 00:34:06,870
Lives with his mom,
straight-A student.

732
00:34:06,914 --> 00:34:08,437
Spends a lot of time at church

733
00:34:08,481 --> 00:34:10,361
and volunteering, and has
never been in trouble.

734
00:34:10,396 --> 00:34:12,093
So he's a good kid.

735
00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:14,226
Not a cold-blooded killer.

736
00:34:14,269 --> 00:34:16,793
Just someone who made
a horrible mistake.

737
00:34:16,837 --> 00:34:20,406
Got to be... scared.

738
00:34:20,449 --> 00:34:22,190
Riddled with guilt.

739
00:34:22,234 --> 00:34:23,452
Dying to talk.

740
00:34:23,496 --> 00:34:25,280
So what are you thinking?

741
00:34:25,324 --> 00:34:28,066
I'm thinking this kid
confessed once before;

742
00:34:28,109 --> 00:34:30,416
Maybe we can get him
to do it again.

743
00:34:42,776 --> 00:34:44,169
Can I help you?

744
00:34:44,212 --> 00:34:46,562
Funny, I was about to
ask you the same thing.

745
00:34:46,606 --> 00:34:48,651
Uh, I think you might
be in the wrong place.

746
00:34:48,695 --> 00:34:50,175
I'm setting up for
a youth group.

747
00:34:50,218 --> 00:34:51,938
There's a bulletin board
outside in the hall

748
00:34:51,981 --> 00:34:53,661
that lists everything
else that's going on.

749
00:34:53,685 --> 00:34:55,397
Nope. I'm in the right place.

750
00:34:55,441 --> 00:34:57,443
You're Jacob, right?

751
00:34:59,619 --> 00:35:00,924
My name's Dr. Jason Bull.

752
00:35:00,968 --> 00:35:02,578
I'm part of Father
Andy's legal team.

753
00:35:02,622 --> 00:35:04,624
[exhales]

754
00:35:04,667 --> 00:35:05,929
I don't know if you've heard,

755
00:35:05,973 --> 00:35:07,293
but things aren't
going very well.

756
00:35:07,317 --> 00:35:09,324
How do you mean?

757
00:35:09,368 --> 00:35:11,631
He's a priest.

758
00:35:11,674 --> 00:35:14,808
Everyone knows he would never...
Everybody knows what they're told. Hmm?

759
00:35:14,851 --> 00:35:17,898
Father Andy was driving the van.

760
00:35:17,941 --> 00:35:21,293
He'd had a drink,
and a woman died.

761
00:35:21,336 --> 00:35:25,732
The only real question
is: Will he go to prison

762
00:35:25,775 --> 00:35:28,430
for 15 years or will it be 20?

763
00:35:28,474 --> 00:35:32,782
Will he die in prison or will
he live long enough to get out

764
00:35:32,826 --> 00:35:35,568
and have a few years of freedom?

765
00:35:38,223 --> 00:35:40,921
My guess is it was a
horrible accident.

766
00:35:40,964 --> 00:35:43,097
What's your guess?

767
00:35:47,101 --> 00:35:50,235
It was an e-mail from Harvard's
Office of Admissions.

768
00:35:50,278 --> 00:35:53,020
It said that I got in.

769
00:35:53,063 --> 00:35:55,457
BENNY: Harvard.

770
00:35:55,501 --> 00:35:57,372
That's quite an accomplishment.

771
00:35:57,416 --> 00:36:00,723
You must have been very
excited, very proud.

772
00:36:00,767 --> 00:36:03,422
I was.

773
00:36:03,465 --> 00:36:06,207
And I was really grateful.
[sniffles]

774
00:36:06,251 --> 00:36:08,905
I had got a lot of help.

775
00:36:08,949 --> 00:36:11,691
Encouragement from... my mom.

776
00:36:11,734 --> 00:36:14,172
People at the church.

777
00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:18,480
I'm the first person in my
family to go to college.

778
00:36:18,524 --> 00:36:21,701
Or, uh, would have been.

779
00:36:21,744 --> 00:36:24,660
I'm guessing you
wanted to celebrate.

780
00:36:24,704 --> 00:36:27,881
I was dating this girl, Jessica.

781
00:36:30,144 --> 00:36:33,930
I thought maybe we
could do something.

782
00:36:33,974 --> 00:36:37,804
Nothing big, you know.
Just... hang out.

783
00:36:37,847 --> 00:36:42,504
I didn't have any money
for an Uber or a taxi,

784
00:36:42,548 --> 00:36:44,550
or anything.

785
00:36:44,593 --> 00:36:47,205
And I... St. Bernadine's
is just down the street.

786
00:36:47,248 --> 00:36:49,032
And I knew the van
would be there.

787
00:36:49,076 --> 00:36:52,645
And that wasn't the first time
you borrowed the van, was it?

788
00:36:52,688 --> 00:36:55,169
JACOB: No, I had...

789
00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:58,041
taken it twice before
to see Jessica.

790
00:36:58,085 --> 00:37:01,044
And what happened after
you borrowed the van?

791
00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:08,356
I was driving...

792
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,793
and I got a text.

793
00:37:10,837 --> 00:37:14,319
It wasn't even... really for me.

794
00:37:14,362 --> 00:37:17,235
It was just an ad for
some stupid game.

795
00:37:20,542 --> 00:37:21,848
And there was a thud.

796
00:37:23,676 --> 00:37:25,417
At first I thought
it was a deer.

797
00:37:28,463 --> 00:37:31,031
But then I looked up.

798
00:37:32,293 --> 00:37:34,774
BENNY: And what did you do?

799
00:37:38,647 --> 00:37:41,998
I didn't do anything.

800
00:37:42,042 --> 00:37:44,218
I knew I should, I
should get out.

801
00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:46,438
Help her, but...

802
00:37:46,481 --> 00:37:48,570
I didn't.

803
00:37:48,614 --> 00:37:50,920
So you just sat there.

804
00:37:50,964 --> 00:37:53,314
[sniffles] I turned around...

805
00:37:53,358 --> 00:37:56,839
[sniffles] and I started
driving back to the church.

806
00:37:56,883 --> 00:38:01,061
I just... [sniffles]

807
00:38:01,104 --> 00:38:04,630
I wanted to get out of that van.

808
00:38:04,673 --> 00:38:07,894
I wanted to make it
not have happened.

809
00:38:07,937 --> 00:38:11,724
I'd just gotten the
best news of my life.

810
00:38:11,767 --> 00:38:13,856
BENNY: So you got
back to the church...

811
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:17,730
And I'm standing in
the parking lot.

812
00:38:17,773 --> 00:38:19,993
I'm looking at the dent.

813
00:38:20,036 --> 00:38:23,213
The blood.

814
00:38:23,257 --> 00:38:24,737
[sniffles]

815
00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:27,174
And there's Father Andy.

816
00:38:27,217 --> 00:38:31,483
It was like God had
already told him.

817
00:38:34,094 --> 00:38:37,924
He said God would forgive
me for anything,

818
00:38:37,967 --> 00:38:41,057
but I needed to confess.

819
00:38:41,101 --> 00:38:43,625
So I did.

820
00:38:43,669 --> 00:38:47,325
And then, he tried to get
me to call the police.

821
00:38:47,368 --> 00:38:52,155
But all I could think of
was my mom and my friends

822
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:55,333
and my future.

823
00:38:55,376 --> 00:38:59,772
I'm... so, so sorry.

824
00:38:59,815 --> 00:39:03,558
I-I never meant to hurt
your sister, your daughter.

825
00:39:03,602 --> 00:39:06,735
Anyone. Not my mom.

826
00:39:06,779 --> 00:39:09,434
Not Father Andy.

827
00:39:09,477 --> 00:39:13,046
BENNY: No further
questions, Your Honor.

828
00:39:13,089 --> 00:39:15,440
Mr. Madden, any questions?

829
00:39:19,008 --> 00:39:21,881
Your Honor, in light
of this testimony,

830
00:39:21,924 --> 00:39:25,624
we'd like to dismiss the charges
against Father Andrew Tincher.

831
00:39:25,667 --> 00:39:27,800
And we'd also like to
seek an arrest warrant

832
00:39:27,843 --> 00:39:30,977
for Jacob Larson in the felony
hit-and-run of Morgan Newhouse.

833
00:39:31,020 --> 00:39:33,501
JUDGE: So ordered.

834
00:39:33,545 --> 00:39:35,329
[gavel bangs]

835
00:39:49,256 --> 00:39:51,301
Just so you know, we're
gonna do everything we can

836
00:39:51,345 --> 00:39:54,043
to get Jacob the
best deal possible.

837
00:39:56,394 --> 00:39:58,134
You'd think after
all these years,

838
00:39:58,178 --> 00:40:02,400
I'd have a better grasp
on how God works.

839
00:40:02,443 --> 00:40:05,664
Still a mystery.

840
00:40:05,707 --> 00:40:07,753
I was watching Jacob
on the stand,

841
00:40:07,796 --> 00:40:12,148
and I... I just kept wondering

842
00:40:12,192 --> 00:40:15,325
maybe I'm just supposed
to plead guilty.

843
00:40:15,369 --> 00:40:19,460
You don't really believe that.

844
00:40:19,504 --> 00:40:22,463
But you were willing
to do it, weren't you?

845
00:40:22,507 --> 00:40:25,031
Give up one or two
decades of your life.

846
00:40:25,074 --> 00:40:27,860
Walk all alone into a
prison for someone else.

847
00:40:27,903 --> 00:40:31,429
I... I wouldn't have been alone.

848
00:40:35,389 --> 00:40:37,391
I envy you.

849
00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:39,611
You envy me?

850
00:40:39,654 --> 00:40:43,179
Had myself a little heart
attack about six months ago

851
00:40:43,223 --> 00:40:44,398
on the courthouse steps.

852
00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:45,617
Not this courthouse...

853
00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:47,793
I never would have known.

854
00:40:47,836 --> 00:40:49,490
[sighs]

855
00:40:49,534 --> 00:40:53,146
Funny thing is, I
was lying there,

856
00:40:53,189 --> 00:40:56,236
ridiculous pain,
middle of the day,

857
00:40:56,279 --> 00:41:00,588
people... walking by.

858
00:41:00,632 --> 00:41:03,983
Mm-hmm.

859
00:41:04,026 --> 00:41:07,247
And I looked up and I
didn't see any angels,

860
00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:08,944
I didn't see...

861
00:41:08,988 --> 00:41:13,906
some glorious white light.

862
00:41:13,949 --> 00:41:16,865
I just saw a patch of blue sky.

863
00:41:19,215 --> 00:41:24,177
I was dying in the middle
of New York City...

864
00:41:24,220 --> 00:41:26,658
and I was all alone.

865
00:41:26,701 --> 00:41:29,225
Ah.

866
00:41:29,269 --> 00:41:32,620
Yeah, I envy you.

867
00:41:32,664 --> 00:41:35,884
You're never alone, are you?

868
00:41:35,928 --> 00:41:39,148
No, I'm not.

869
00:41:41,673 --> 00:41:44,153
You know, Dr. Bull,

870
00:41:44,197 --> 00:41:47,156
you could have that, too.

871
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,246
There's always a place
at the church for you.

872
00:41:50,290 --> 00:41:53,989
You know, I'd be pleased
to help you find the way.

873
00:41:54,033 --> 00:41:57,906
Well, that's a very
tempting offer, Father.

874
00:41:57,950 --> 00:42:01,954
The thing is, as
I'm sure you know,

875
00:42:01,997 --> 00:42:03,912
God moves people in
mysterious ways.

876
00:42:03,956 --> 00:42:05,305
Uh-huh.

877
00:42:05,348 --> 00:42:07,960
The way he moves
me, I just cannot

878
00:42:08,003 --> 00:42:10,571
drag my butt out of bed
on a Sunday morning.

879
00:42:10,615 --> 00:42:12,355
But like you said...

880
00:42:12,399 --> 00:42:16,229
who are we to question
how God works?

881
00:42:16,272 --> 00:42:19,667
You know you're going
to hell, right?

882
00:42:19,711 --> 00:42:22,844
Yup. Already booked my suite.

883
00:42:22,888 --> 00:42:23,932
[chuckles]

884
00:42:25,499 --> 00:42:27,283
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00:42:27,327 --> 00:42:29,982
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